OT: We\'re arming and funding NAZIs...

C

Cursitor Doom

Guest
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits
 
On 6/6/2023 5:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits

Yeah, the government of just about every developed nation in the Western
world keeps some on the payroll. And Russia, too.

Fascists and white supremacists are like disposable razors - useful
tools you can throw away when you\'re done with them.
 
On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 22:58:14 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits

A patch doesn\'t make you a Nazi.
 
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 7:58:23 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits

What creeps like Zero Hedge don\'t mention is that Ukraine has been anti-Russian since Stalin starved about 1.5 million Ukranians to death in 1932-33.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

When the Germans showed up in 1942, the Ukrainian nationalists were delighted, and joined in on their side.

Ukranian nationalists have always had a soft spot for the Nazi\'s - as former allies, rather than moral example - since then.

The Russians don\'t like seeing themselves as heirs of the equally repulsive Stalinist creeps who starved 1.5 million Ukranians to death, so they emphasise the pro-
German aspects, rather than the anti-Russian. So does Zero Hedge.

Cursitor Doom likes Zero Hedge - it peddles his sort of right-wing propaganda. It make him just as despicable as they are.

--
Bill Sloman, sydney
 
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:05:30 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 7:58:23 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits
What creeps like Zero Hedge don\'t mention is that Ukraine has been anti-Russian since Stalin starved about 1.5 million Ukranians to death in 1932-33..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

When the Germans showed up in 1942, the Ukrainian nationalists were delighted, and joined in on their side.

Ukranian nationalists have always had a soft spot for the Nazi\'s - as former allies, rather than moral example - since then.

The Russians don\'t like seeing themselves as heirs of the equally repulsive Stalinist creeps who starved 1.5 million Ukranians to death, so they emphasise the pro-
German aspects, rather than the anti-Russian. So does Zero Hedge.

It wasn\'t all Ukrainians, it was the Kulaks. The main problem with them was their refusal to cooperate with collectivization of agriculture. The term kulak is an economic designation for well-off farmers. The Kulaks did things like use hired labor and machines. At one point any farmer who could afford a metal roof on his house was a Kulak. Stalin imprisoned them on their own farms with roving bands of guards who would shoot on sight any Kulak who left his land. The Kulaks survived as long as they could by cannibalizing their children and other family members, but eventually all succumbed to starvation. Contrary to popular belief, Ukraine exported a bumper crop of wheat that year, mainly because they eliminated about 15 million consumers, a very substantial fraction of their population, and the U.S. was one of the biggest buyers. Post-WWI, wheat in the U.S. was scarce and expensive, which led to a bunch of people, who didn\'t know what they were doing, moving onto all those rental farms in Dust Bowl Oklahoma and Texas to grow wheat for profit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulak


Cursitor Doom likes Zero Hedge - it peddles his sort of right-wing propaganda. It make him just as despicable as they are.

--
Bill Sloman, sydney
 
On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 8:48:28 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 6/6/2023 5:58 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits

Yeah, the government of just about every developed nation in the Western
world keeps some on the payroll. And Russia, too.

Those people were not politically ardent Nazis. They were mercenary geeks, they didn\'t believe in anything except their work.


Fascists and white supremacists are like disposable razors - useful
tools you can throw away when you\'re done with them.
 
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 08:46:32 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:05:30?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 7:58:23?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits
What creeps like Zero Hedge don\'t mention is that Ukraine has been anti-Russian since Stalin starved about 1.5 million Ukranians to death in 1932-33.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

When the Germans showed up in 1942, the Ukrainian nationalists were delighted, and joined in on their side.

Ukranian nationalists have always had a soft spot for the Nazi\'s - as former allies, rather than moral example - since then.

The Russians don\'t like seeing themselves as heirs of the equally repulsive Stalinist creeps who starved 1.5 million Ukranians to death, so they emphasise the pro-
German aspects, rather than the anti-Russian. So does Zero Hedge.


It wasn\'t all Ukrainians, it was the Kulaks. The main problem with them was their refusal to cooperate with collectivization of agriculture. The term kulak is an economic designation for well-off farmers. The Kulaks did things like use hired labor and machines.

Using hired labor alone was reason enough to incur the wrath of
Stalin. But you\'re right - it was the Kulaks Stalin targeted and his
vengeance against them was cruel beyond all reason. For anyone
interested in this horrific period of history, I\'d recommend \'Harvest
of Sorrow\' by Robert Conquest (if it\'s still available). It\'s an
excellent read on this subject and magnificently illustrates the most
likely outcome when Communism fails. It should be required reading in
all schools.
 
onsdag den 7. juni 2023 kl. 03.16.28 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 22:58:14 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com
wrote:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits

A patch doesn\'t make you a Nazi.

and if you are being invaded by another country the political views of those willing and able to fight for your country is very low on the list of concerns
 
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:10:52 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 08:46:32 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:05:30?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 7:58:23?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits
What creeps like Zero Hedge don\'t mention is that Ukraine has been anti-Russian since Stalin starved about 1.5 million Ukranians to death in 1932-33.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

When the Germans showed up in 1942, the Ukrainian nationalists were delighted, and joined in on their side.

Ukranian nationalists have always had a soft spot for the Nazi\'s - as former allies, rather than moral example - since then.

The Russians don\'t like seeing themselves as heirs of the equally repulsive Stalinist creeps who starved 1.5 million Ukranians to death, so they emphasise the pro-
German aspects, rather than the anti-Russian. So does Zero Hedge.


It wasn\'t all Ukrainians, it was the Kulaks. The main problem with them was their refusal to cooperate with collectivization of agriculture. The term kulak is an economic designation for well-off farmers. The Kulaks did things like use hired labor and machines.
Using hired labor alone was reason enough to incur the wrath of
Stalin. But you\'re right - it was the Kulaks Stalin targeted and his
vengeance against them was cruel beyond all reason. For anyone
interested in this horrific period of history, I\'d recommend \'Harvest
of Sorrow\' by Robert Conquest (if it\'s still available). It\'s an
excellent read on this subject and magnificently illustrates the most
likely outcome when Communism fails. It should be required reading in
all schools.

Stalin did the same thing in Kazakhstan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakh_famine_of_1930%E2%80%931933
 
On 6/6/2023 9:16 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 22:58:14 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits

A patch doesn\'t make you a Nazi.

Sure, and there are also men who think having sex with other men doesn\'t
make them gay.

Which is true to a degree I guess but eventually the qualitative aspects
of duck-typing become too difficult to ignore
 
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 11:26:18 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:10:52?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 08:46:32 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:05:30?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 7:58:23?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits
What creeps like Zero Hedge don\'t mention is that Ukraine has been anti-Russian since Stalin starved about 1.5 million Ukranians to death in 1932-33.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

When the Germans showed up in 1942, the Ukrainian nationalists were delighted, and joined in on their side.

Ukranian nationalists have always had a soft spot for the Nazi\'s - as former allies, rather than moral example - since then.

The Russians don\'t like seeing themselves as heirs of the equally repulsive Stalinist creeps who starved 1.5 million Ukranians to death, so they emphasise the pro-
German aspects, rather than the anti-Russian. So does Zero Hedge.


It wasn\'t all Ukrainians, it was the Kulaks. The main problem with them was their refusal to cooperate with collectivization of agriculture. The term kulak is an economic designation for well-off farmers. The Kulaks did things like use hired labor and machines.
Using hired labor alone was reason enough to incur the wrath of
Stalin. But you\'re right - it was the Kulaks Stalin targeted and his
vengeance against them was cruel beyond all reason. For anyone
interested in this horrific period of history, I\'d recommend \'Harvest
of Sorrow\' by Robert Conquest (if it\'s still available). It\'s an
excellent read on this subject and magnificently illustrates the most
likely outcome when Communism fails. It should be required reading in
all schools.

Stalin did the same thing in Kazakhstan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakh_famine_of_1930%E2%80%931933

Forced starvation: the weapon of first choice for Communist despots
everywhere. It\'s all too easy to seize the grain and send it elsewhere
where \'their need is greater than yours\' can be used as an excellent
cover for exacting your vengeance if you have that sort of mentality -
as Uncle Joe certainly did.
 
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 5:41:30 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 11:26:18 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:10:52?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 08:46:32 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 1:05:30?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 7:58:23?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits
What creeps like Zero Hedge don\'t mention is that Ukraine has been anti-Russian since Stalin starved about 1.5 million Ukranians to death in 1932-33.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

When the Germans showed up in 1942, the Ukrainian nationalists were delighted, and joined in on their side.

Ukranian nationalists have always had a soft spot for the Nazi\'s - as former allies, rather than moral example - since then.

The Russians don\'t like seeing themselves as heirs of the equally repulsive Stalinist creeps who starved 1.5 million Ukranians to death, so they emphasise the pro-
German aspects, rather than the anti-Russian. So does Zero Hedge.


It wasn\'t all Ukrainians, it was the Kulaks. The main problem with them was their refusal to cooperate with collectivization of agriculture. The term kulak is an economic designation for well-off farmers. The Kulaks did things like use hired labor and machines.
Using hired labor alone was reason enough to incur the wrath of
Stalin. But you\'re right - it was the Kulaks Stalin targeted and his
vengeance against them was cruel beyond all reason. For anyone
interested in this horrific period of history, I\'d recommend \'Harvest
of Sorrow\' by Robert Conquest (if it\'s still available). It\'s an
excellent read on this subject and magnificently illustrates the most
likely outcome when Communism fails. It should be required reading in
all schools.

Stalin did the same thing in Kazakhstan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakh_famine_of_1930%E2%80%931933
Forced starvation: the weapon of first choice for Communist despots
everywhere. It\'s all too easy to seize the grain and send it elsewhere
where \'their need is greater than yours\' can be used as an excellent
cover for exacting your vengeance if you have that sort of mentality -
as Uncle Joe certainly did.

The stupid tsarist regime ended up starving the population during WW I, so the Bolsheviks knew better than most the power of starvation to foment rebellion and revolution. The communists believed collectivization of agriculture was the way forward to eliminate food scarcity. The Kulaks could have avoided their plight if they cooperated. They chose resistance and death.
 
On Tue, 6 Jun 2023 22:05:25 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 7:58:23?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits

What creeps like Zero Hedge don\'t mention is that Ukraine has been anti-Russian since Stalin starved about 1.5 million Ukranians to death in 1932-33.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

When the Germans showed up in 1942, the Ukrainian nationalists were delighted, and joined in on their side.

Ukranian nationalists have always had a soft spot for the Nazi\'s - as former allies, rather than moral example - since then.

The Russians don\'t like seeing themselves as heirs of the equally repulsive Stalinist creeps who starved 1.5 million Ukranians to death, so they emphasise the pro-
German aspects, rather than the anti-Russian. So does Zero Hedge.

Cursitor Doom likes Zero Hedge - it peddles his sort of right-wing propaganda. It make him just as despicable as they are.

Here\'s an update on the situation! Educate yourself for once, Bill:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/first-there-were-neo-nazis-then-there-were-no-nazis-then-there-were
 
On 6/7/2023 2:20 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
onsdag den 7. juni 2023 kl. 03.16.28 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 22:58:14 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com
wrote:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits

A patch doesn\'t make you a Nazi.

and if you are being invaded by another country the political views of those willing and able to fight for your country is very low on the list of concerns

Fascists are like disposable razors, useful tools you can throw away
when you\'re done with them.
 
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 11:20:23 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
<langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

onsdag den 7. juni 2023 kl. 03.16.28 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 22:58:14 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com
wrote:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits

A patch doesn\'t make you a Nazi.

and if you are being invaded by another country the political views of those willing and able to fight for your country is very low on the list of concerns

Some of the \"Nazi\" symbols, like a skull and crossbones, have been
used for millennia.

Of the people who wear a swastika on their clothes or skins, I suspect
that a minority have read Mein Kampf. The swastika is a symbol for
ferocity.

It is in bad taste and plays into the Russian propaganda.
 
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 19:27:12 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 6/7/2023 2:20 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
onsdag den 7. juni 2023 kl. 03.16.28 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 22:58:14 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com
wrote:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits

A patch doesn\'t make you a Nazi.

and if you are being invaded by another country the political views of those willing and able to fight for your country is very low on the list of concerns

Fascists are like disposable razors, useful tools you can throw away
when you\'re done with them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Sounds like Putin, not Zelenskyy.
 
On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 22:58:14 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
wrote:

>https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits

You can buy a Punisher Patch at Wal-mart.

There\'a a pink Punisher Kitty Patch for girls too.
 
On 6/7/2023 8:15 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 22:58:14 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com
wrote:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits

You can buy a Punisher Patch at Wal-mart.

There\'a a pink Punisher Kitty Patch for girls too.

Odd to see those stickers on the same vehicles as support-police blue
line stickers, given that the primary reason the character of \"The
Punisher\" became a vigilante in the comic book was due to how corrupt
and inept the police were..
 
On 6/7/2023 8:05 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 7 Jun 2023 19:27:12 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 6/7/2023 2:20 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
onsdag den 7. juni 2023 kl. 03.16.28 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Tue, 06 Jun 2023 22:58:14 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com
wrote:

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/journalists-are-asking-ukrainian-soldiers-hide-their-nazi-patches-nyt-admits

A patch doesn\'t make you a Nazi.

and if you are being invaded by another country the political views of those willing and able to fight for your country is very low on the list of concerns

Fascists are like disposable razors, useful tools you can throw away
when you\'re done with them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Sounds like Putin, not Zelenskyy.

They\'re in pretty much every country was my point. Russia has \"Nazis\",
Ukraine has \"Nazis\", the UK has \"Nazis\", the US has \"Nazis\", Mexico has
\"Nazis\":

<https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/05/hispanic-american-racism-white-supremacy/674081/>

Fascism was and is a global political movement, not isolated to Western
Europe or North America. There are Japanese fascists, Indian fascists,
Filipino fascists, Persian fascists..

Leveraging psychopathic fanatics comes in handy in war sometimes, even
for nominally democratic countries. If you win you can then use their
fanaticism against them to shut them out of the peacetime power
structure, assuming there\'s a minority of them. And if you lose it
doesn\'t matter so much, that\'s the disposable razor analogy.
 
On 6/10/2023 12:26 AM, bitrex wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Sounds like Putin, not Zelenskyy.





They\'re in pretty much every country was my point. Russia has \"Nazis\",
Ukraine has \"Nazis\", the UK has \"Nazis\", the US has \"Nazis\", Mexico has
\"Nazis\":

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/05/hispanic-american-racism-white-supremacy/674081/

Fascism was and is a global political movement, not isolated to Western
Europe or North America. There are Japanese fascists, Indian fascists,
Filipino fascists, Persian fascists..

Leveraging psychopathic fanatics comes in handy in war sometimes, even
for nominally democratic countries. If you win you can then use their
fanaticism against them to shut them out of the peacetime power
structure, assuming there\'s a minority of them.

It\'s often a good assumption because fanatics tend to be the ones taking
heavy casualties, tends to be a high-risk low-reward kind of job overall.
 

Welcome to EDABoard.com

Sponsor

Back
Top